{"id":29698,"date":"2025-07-01T00:11:04","date_gmt":"2025-07-01T07:11:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/?p=29698"},"modified":"2025-07-01T09:48:39","modified_gmt":"2025-07-01T16:48:39","slug":"the-beard-and-the-bird-jon-and-cat-curry-hazs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/the-beard-and-the-bird-jon-and-cat-curry-hazs\/","title":{"rendered":"The Beard and the Bird: Jon and Cat Curry Hasz"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Between Intention and Serendipity: The Art of Following the Catch<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"story-images\">\n<div id=\"attachment_29784\" style=\"width: 1210px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-29784\" class=\"size-full wp-image-29784\" src=\"https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/BB_hancock.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"1800\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/BB_hancock.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/BB_hancock-160x240.jpg 160w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/BB_hancock-240x360.jpg 240w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/BB_hancock-768x1152.jpg 768w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/BB_hancock-1024x1536.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-29784\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jon and Cathryn Curry Hasz. Photo by John Hancock.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>To say that Jon and Cat Hazs of the Beard and the Bird are two peas in a pod wouldn\u2019t be entirely accurate. They can\u2019t be confined that way. They are more like the multiple and varied notes of a wind chime, bouncing back and forth in a composition that is both intricate and unpredictable. The song would be incomplete without either of them\u2026 and it would be pretty darn boring.<\/p>\n<p>Jon is rapid-fire and always on, whitewater rushing forward. Cat is pensive and calm, a gentle creek flowing into shadows and hollows, then back out into the sun. They happily finish and embellish each other\u2019s sentences without batting an eye or taking a breath. It\u2019s symbiotic. My attention is drawn in continuous motion from one to the other and then back again, almost rhythmically, like a song, one of <em>their<\/em> songs.<\/p>\n<p>Jon and Cat both grew up in Ramona\u2014she\u2019s a native, he\u2019s a transplant from Arizona at age four. By the time they were in high school, they lived on the same street and went to the same school.<\/p>\n<p>They didn\u2019t actually meet, though, until Jon was working his first job at a music store and Cat went in to replace a broken guitar string. Though her parents listened to the Beatles, the Eagles, and Dire Straits, Cat had veered into an entirely different scene. At the time, she was the lead singer in a punk band called the McGillicuttys.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhich means,\u201d Cat shares, \u201cthat I knew three power chords\u2014very poorly. All I needed was misplaced confidence and a loud singing voice.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jon interjects, \u201cAnd a little bit of angst, I think.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cat replies, \u201cOh, a lot of angst. And listening to the Misfits, Screeching Weasel, the Queers, and the Addicts on repeat.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jon went a slightly different route. \u201cWe had a good punk scene here. I went through Metallica. Like, as I\u2019m learning guitar, I have to just fall in love with all the standard stuff\u2014Lynyrd Skynyrd, whatever. You know, learn those guitar parts. And then I ended up doing punk in high school, and my first thing was getting into kind of more the skate punk kind of stuff\u2014Strung Out\u2014played that and then went into metal again. Did Tool and some of the heavier stuff.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Still, that shared love of punk gave them instant common ground. That first meeting through music was the beginning of a closeness they shared as best friends. Over the next six years, they spent time together on non-dates eating burritos, going rock climbing, complaining about their significant others, and having punk jams.<\/p>\n<p>For whatever reason, Cat hung up her guitar for a while, but for Jon, music \u201cwas everything to me for, you know, my whole life.\u201d He had gone first from playing guitar in fourth grade, to joining his first band in sixth grade, to working in the music store in high school. It does seem like all he has ever known and done is music. And to top it off, at 21 years old, after three years at the store, he got the opportunity to buy it, which he has now had for 18 years. They just recently moved Ramona Music Center from its original location to 555 Main Street in Ramona. \u201cI\u2019ve been teaching, playing, and running our recording studio since 2007.\u201d That is some clear intention in my book.<\/p>\n<p>Going back to their non-dating days, eventually, they each developed crushes on one another. A mix of failed relationships and a mistakenly placed kiss set the stage for a leap into coupledom. On a non-date at the Ramona holiday pub crawl, Cat remembers, \u201cWell, he was trying to kiss my cheek, and I turned my face.\u201d Jon says, \u201cThat changed everything.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"story-images\">\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-29785 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/bb-winter.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"1209\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/bb-winter.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/bb-winter-160x161.jpg 160w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/bb-winter-240x242.jpg 240w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/bb-winter-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/bb-winter-768x774.jpg 768w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/bb-winter-80x80.jpg 80w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>For a moment, they feared losing their friendship and the depth of their connection, but quickly decided it was worth the risk. They already knew so much about each other, there were no skeletons in the closet, and no reason to wait. Within a month, they had moved in together \u201cand got cats, which is, like, that\u2019s permanent.\u201d Cat continues, \u201cThe funny thing is, probably three or four months before the pub crawl, we were in Poway getting beers and tacos and stuff. And I was in a terrible relationship that had just ended. And we were like, if we\u2019re not married this time next year, we should get married. And then we start dating and we\u2019re, like, we only have nine months. So, three years later we ended up getting married [in 2014] on the day that we had made the pact to get married.\u201dJon\u2019s proposal was written in the bridge of one of his songs. At the time, Cathryn Beeks had a show on KPRI, so he met with her and Jeff Berkley at the studio to record the whole thing to be aired two days later. On the evening it would broadcast, Jon and Cat went to see <em>Lord of the Rings,<\/em> which he now admits was the worst possible movie to choose under the circumstances. Already nervous, he remembers staring at the ring on the screen and thinking the one he had \u201cwas burning a hole in my pocket.\u201d On the drive home, the song and proposal played nationwide, reaching friends and family across the country, who began calling them to celebrate.<\/p>\n<p>When they told me about the wedding, I found out that Cat is a bit of an introvert. I tell her it doesn\u2019t show, and Jon says, \u201cNot even a little bit, right? She\u2019s very well curated.\u201d To adjust for nerves and anxiety, they had a very small pre-wedding and took care of the legalities and paperwork. A couple of weeks later, after building picnic tables and redoing the backyard for the occasion, they had a big wedding there with everyone in attendance.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s a nice story, but I\u2019m still thinking about Cat, and I ask her how she ended up a performer. \u201cDo you remember in San Diego in around 2011, the big blackout that happened? Jon came home that day with the bass and he was, like, you\u2019re going to learn this. And I was, like, what?\u201d She laughs, then continues, \u201cSo, luckily, I lived with a music teacher, but it sat in the corner for years.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jon says, \u201cYou\u2019d pull it out every once in a while.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cat nodded and said she had gotten good at playing <em>Jingle Bells<\/em>, when, three-and-a-half years ago, he came home and said, \u201cAll right, babe, don\u2019t kill me, but I booked us a show at an Earth Day Festival.\u201d When she reminded him of her single-song repertoire, he said, \u201cYou\u2019re going to have to learn more.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That was the beginning.<\/p>\n<p>Cat said, \u201cThat one went so well that Jon completely lost his mind&#8230;\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Already rolling, Jon said, \u201c\u2026and I booked a bunch more. I think even at that one, I had two more lined up afterward.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cat continues, \u201cIt was nuts. So then, yeah, all of a sudden we were in a band, and we toured internationally.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jon speaks glowingly, \u201cShe has no idea how good she is. Like, she\u2019s still one of my best students of all time, right? And so, yeah, it was never really on our radar, but I\u2019m like, you\u2019re so talented, how can you not put this at the front of the list? She\u2019s got a lot of talent.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I ask her, \u201cDo you love it? Do you love playing bass, or are you still nervous?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>She said, \u201cWell, both. I love it, but I\u2019m also still nervous, I guess. But, I\u2019m definitely in a place now where I don\u2019t panic as much as I did before shows. But there are also moments, like when we went to the Folk Alliance Festival in February, and I\u2019m surrounded by these people that are just shredding. And I\u2019m, like, immediately, I need to get so much better if we\u2019re ever gonna hang in this group, you know?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I watched a couple of the Beard and the Bird music videos before the interview and Cat is chewing gum with abandon, smiling broadly, and slapping on that bass like she\u2019s been playing forever. I\u2019m curious about that anxiety she mentioned earlier.<\/p>\n<p>She reveals that chewing gum has become her reminder to relax, to smile more. But even still, \u201cYou can tell in other ways; I start picking off nail polish and talking fast and being awkward. But yeah, I mask it well&#8230;\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jon jumps in, \u201c\u2026visually, but also, like, the stuff she writes is amazing and funny and perfect, but it\u2019s all calculated. She gets very nervous about anything where it\u2019s live.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cat nods. \u201cYes, and then I go home and sit in the dark for a while to recharge my batteries.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jon adds, almost apologetically, \u201cWhich is a lot\u2014for me to ask for her to get on stage in front of people every month, all over the country. You know?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><iframe title=\"The Beard and the Bird  - InAdvance #tinydeskcontest #2023\" width=\"740\" height=\"416\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/k_8unCKWz8M?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Cat shifts the focus to Jon, \u201cI don\u2019t know if you know this about him, but he\u2019s the world\u2019s biggest extrovert on the planet, and he never runs out of energy that I\u2019ve ever seen. So, polar opposites&#8230;\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jon adds, \u201c\u2026opposites really do attract. But it\u2019s good. I really wanna have some kind of album art for our upcoming release where I\u2019m the balloon and she\u2019s holding me. It\u2019s perfect. I lift her up. I can, you know, keep her out of going too deep and then, she keeps me grounded. I love it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cat shifts again, \u201cHe can play any instrument very well, and I feel like I\u2019m hanging on for dear life. I\u2019m really good at buying instruments, I\u2019m not very good at learning them.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jon says, \u201cThat\u2019s a bad combo when your husband owns a music store too&#8230;\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cat laughs and says, \u201c\u2026because what did I get for my birthday? A pocket trumpet!\u201d She continues, whining just a little, \u201cIt\u2019s so hard. Like, I don\u2019t know why I keep thinking that with one of these, I\u2019m gonna just be a prodigy, and all of a sudden&#8230;\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jon agrees, \u201c\u2026you\u2019re like sword in the stone. She just pulls out the instrument and all of a sudden, ta-da! Like, this is the chosen one.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>They list her collection. She has Irish bagpipes, a banjo, guitar, multiple basses, fiddles, piano, and as terrible as she may be at playing most of them, she says, \u201cI love learning, and I love challenges and pushing myself and beating myself up when I do it wrong.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Reassuringly, Jon says, \u201cBut she\u2019s good. She\u2019s got great timing. And it just seems like when I brought the bass home, I was like, okay, I feel like this is the right instrument.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019d have to agree.<\/p>\n<div class=\"story-images\">\n<div id=\"attachment_29788\" style=\"width: 1135px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-29788\" class=\"size-full wp-image-29788\" src=\"https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/494645953_10100321221358876_3677286617838308858_n.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1125\" height=\"2000\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/494645953_10100321221358876_3677286617838308858_n.jpg 1125w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/494645953_10100321221358876_3677286617838308858_n-160x284.jpg 160w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/494645953_10100321221358876_3677286617838308858_n-240x427.jpg 240w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/494645953_10100321221358876_3677286617838308858_n-768x1365.jpg 768w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/494645953_10100321221358876_3677286617838308858_n-864x1536.jpg 864w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1125px) 100vw, 1125px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-29788\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jon and Cat with Dan Chusid at the 2025 San Diego Music Awards.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>It turns out Jon and I share the same muse for writing: being alone in a car for hours on the open road, but he didn\u2019t know it until recently. \u201cI wrote horrible songs in sixth grade,\u201d he confesses, then reveals, \u201cThe funny thing is, I didn\u2019t write songs for a long time. Our house is ten minutes from the music store. So, for 16 years, I drove just ten minutes, and I never had enough time. So, there\u2019s ten years where I didn\u2019t write a single song, and then, all of a sudden, we started doing these trips up the East Coast, where you have these big, long, beautiful drives, and it just started pouring out. I realized that\u2019s the key for me, to be alone in the car\u2014no music\u2014and just let my mind wander.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cat wrote a few songs in high school but set it aside and didn\u2019t return to songwriting until they started the band. Writing together has proven complicated but doable. \u201cWe\u2019re both very picky in our own lanes, you know? So that\u2019s been a whole challenge in itself, learning to write songs without filing for divorce.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jon agrees, \u201cIt\u2019s a hard thing if you haven\u2019t worked together. And we both have a vested interest in our writing styles, and so, we\u2019ll fight over the use of one word. You know? And the order of the word, you know? But we\u2019re getting better.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>They are especially proud of not having killed each other while writing their song \u201cTake the 219\u201d during a recent road trip on the East Coast.<\/p>\n<p>Cat has learned that it\u2019s better not to approach Jon with a completed song. \u201cIt\u2019s better if we kind of piecemeal it together because then I\u2019m not emotionally attached to what I\u2019ve already created. So, we\u2019re just kinda learning hacks like that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>They admit that creating music together has added a layer of complexity to their marriage. Jon explains, \u201cI just think that there\u2019s so many benefits to it. I mean, it\u2019s opened up a new level of communication. Like, we had a hard time working together on anything, really. Right?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cat laughs and says sarcastically, \u201cI\u2019m a delight. I\u2019m so easy to work with.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Equally sarcastic, Jon agrees, \u201cYou <em>are<\/em> a delight. You\u2019re a total delight.\u201d Then continues, \u201cWe\u2019re both very passionate people, and so we had our lanes, and we knew our lanes, we were comfortable with that. And this has forced us to find some new space in between, and I\u2019m really proud, because I love that space. That\u2019s been really cool, but of course that\u2019s hard, and that you\u2019re in a band with the most important other person in your life, and so there\u2019s a lot to balance. But the plusses are that I get to travel around, and I\u2019m crazy busy. Now I get extra time with her, which is amazing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>They both recognize the arrangement can be challenging, but they\u2019re up for it. For Cat, there is a sense of safety and security with Jon. His years of musical experience\u2014wearing many different hats, from performing live to recording to writing and producing\u2014means, \u201cAnytime we get stuck somewhere, Jon has already sort of experienced it and has insight to it, which makes it a lot easier than stumbling around in the dark together.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>With a blend of intuition and intention, he curated the exact band he wanted. He taught his bassist how to play and to sing; he also taught her how to read music, which \u201cshe does very well,\u201d Jon says proudly. \u201cI can literally write a new song in the car and write it down and put it in front of her, and we can play it live. And it\u2019s accurate.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cat interjects, \u201cThe only thing I can\u2019t do is remember. We\u2019ll be on stage, he\u2019s like, it\u2019s just one four five in E. And I\u2019m like, you taught me that back then, but I don\u2019t know what that means.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jon thinks it\u2019s good for both of them, too, because they now share one more huge part of their lives\u2014a common interest they\u2019re both deeply invested in. It\u2019s become part of their identity. He also appreciates having help, especially after years of being a bandleader and managing everything on his own. Now, having someone to collaborate and brainstorm with is refreshing.<\/p>\n<div class=\"story-images\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-29791 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/474605563_594524686670576_1796497430613100701_n.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1547\" height=\"1152\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/474605563_594524686670576_1796497430613100701_n.jpg 1547w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/474605563_594524686670576_1796497430613100701_n-160x119.jpg 160w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/474605563_594524686670576_1796497430613100701_n-240x179.jpg 240w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/474605563_594524686670576_1796497430613100701_n-768x572.jpg 768w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/474605563_594524686670576_1796497430613100701_n-1536x1144.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1547px) 100vw, 1547px\" \/><\/div>\n<p>I ask them what they like most and least about navigating the world of music. Cat answers right away, \u201cI love recording, because if you do it wrong, you can just do it again. That\u2019s very little pressure to me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>We all agree that performing live is fairly low pressure too, since people are very in the moment and have a short memory when it comes to mistakes. On the other hand, recording live is the worst way to go. It\u2019s the beauty of recording, but without the safety net of do-overs.<\/p>\n<p>As it turns out, they have an August show at the Mainstage in Ramona where they\u2019ll be doing just that. Jon says, \u201cThat is my nightmare. That\u2019s a lot of pressure\u2014so stressful.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cat agrees, and Jon continues, \u201cWe\u2019re part of the Ramona CD, volume two of it. So, we\u2019ve got a whole new 20 artists, but that\u2019s a lot to navigate. Last time was great, but it took a long time.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo what we decided was we\u2019re gonna do everyone full band at the Mainstage, record the whole show. I think this is a good creative solution to kind of level the playing field for everyone. Bring your A game, get whatever players you want, and let\u2019s make one heck of a party.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPlus, we get to sell tickets, which will pay for the CD, and it\u2019s something to bring the whole town together. I\u2019m excited. We\u2019ve been having a lot of fun with the Ramona Music Alliance and everything we\u2019re doing up here. Got a great scene right now up here.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Oh, don\u2019t I know it!<\/p>\n<p>As great as the scene is in Ramona, Jon and Cat are part of another on the East Coast as well, with a home base in Buffalo. They\u2019ve always traveled a lot, but in 2021, they were stuck at home like everyone else and going a little stir crazy. They ended up finding a 153-year-old Victorian house online and buying it, doing the final walkthrough in VR. They had never been there, and they didn\u2019t know anyone in the area, but it has since become their home base. Cat says, \u201cWe didn\u2019t admit to having the house for years because it was unhinged.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jon agrees, \u201cIt was the craziest thing we\u2019ve ever done. It was insane.\u201d But they got lucky finding an amazing music scene.<\/p>\n<p>For all their touring, they fly into Buffalo, pick up gear they leave there, and then set off for shows on that side of the country. They now split their time between here and there, flying back every month until the weather turns cold.<\/p>\n<p>I ask when the house was built. Cat says, \u201c1870, I think. It\u2019s 3,900 square feet and eightish rooms. We converted one of the potential bedrooms into a studio, and then another one into an arts room. We have a study with floor-to-ceiling library shelves. And when I saw that, I was, like, this is it!\u201d<\/p>\n<p><iframe title=\"The Beard and the Bird  - Blueside of the Mountain #Steeldriverscover #2023\" width=\"740\" height=\"416\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/KWKqwol8cjM?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Jon added, \u201cEspecially coming from here where we can barely afford 12 or 1,300 square feet. It\u2019s been really good, beneficial for the scene out here too. The Buffalo Music Alliance invited me to a meeting, and the next day I got on a plane and texted fellow Ramona singer-songwriter Ashley Norton. I was, like, I know exactly what we need to do in our small town. I got the whole model. Let\u2019s do it. And three years later, it\u2019s the best scene we\u2019ve ever had here. If we hadn\u2019t gone to Buffalo, I would have no idea what to do.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>They are now doing about half of their recording in Buffalo, and just recently shot a music video. \u201cI have a bunch of camera gear. I have a YouTube series where I film songwriters we meet on our travels, so I carry around three cameras. This is kind of the time that we\u2019ve turned the camera onto us, which is really hard. So, we\u2019ll see how long it takes me to finish, because it\u2019s a lot\u2014trying to storyboard it, then set it all up, then go play and set it all up.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This is where I begin to see the mastery of Jon and his ability to envision what he would like to do and then just do it. When I asked him where he learned about making music videos, he said, \u201cI kinda figured it out. There\u2019s good videographers but I haven\u2019t met a lot that have good audio. So, I kinda picked it up, because I just wanted to do it. I saw that all the artists that I love right now that are blowing up, all came from YouTube series. I figured it wouldn\u2019t hurt to do one more. And then it\u2019s been a good excuse for us to meet people in other states.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Indeed, they\u2019ve met people in New Orleans, western New York, and then in Vancouver, Montreal, and Australia. Jon is talking fast. \u201cIt\u2019s just been a great excuse to run around, meet new people, meet new songwriters. And then, you know, I get to geek out on some of my favorite songs I\u2019ve ever heard with people all over the country.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cat adds, \u201cAnd then they all trade gigs too. Like Jon meets people in these different areas and they\u2019re like, hey, we got this one. Do you want this? Oh, come to Buffalo. Come to San Diego. So again, just networking like crazy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jon continues, \u201cAnd we met a bunch of musicians. And so next time we come through, we\u2019ll be able to do some shows.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"story-images\">\n<div id=\"attachment_29792\" style=\"width: 1930px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-29792\" class=\"size-full wp-image-29792\" src=\"https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/494951770_10100321221383826_8007708797107324647_n.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/494951770_10100321221383826_8007708797107324647_n.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/494951770_10100321221383826_8007708797107324647_n-160x90.jpg 160w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/494951770_10100321221383826_8007708797107324647_n-240x135.jpg 240w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/494951770_10100321221383826_8007708797107324647_n-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/494951770_10100321221383826_8007708797107324647_n-1536x864.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-29792\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jon &amp; Cat with Tony Econom<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>I ask them about their dreams. Jon says his parents taught him to dream big, and then he says something that hit me so profoundly, it keeps playing over and over in my head. He says, \u201cFor me, it was always about casting ten lines and then just running in the direction that has a bite, rather than focusing on the one line that didn\u2019t catch anything.\u201d My gosh, that\u2019s so simple, yet big. He finishes, \u201cI might not have everything that I\u2019ve wanted to have, but I have everything I need, and I think staying thankful for things, too\u2014that\u2019s huge. So, putting things in perspective is always good.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I already know that Cat\u2019s a realist, which means there are probably plenty of unattainable dreams. But for now, she says, \u201cWell, for the happiness side, I think I\u2019m happy as long as I\u2019m managing the anxiety and stress, right? I do a lot of exercise and try to make healthy choices and read a lot of fantasy books just to detach\u2014escapism. I feel like my brain has become a lot more rigorous, where I have a list of things that I need to achieve to feel happy or feel accomplished, which I\u2019m trying to move away from a bit and that is hard.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jon adds, \u201cI don\u2019t think anything\u2019s unattainable. I\u2019ve never been the person to try to force stuff. I\u2019ve always been the person that\u2019s, like, what does success mean? Right? Like we all have concepts. I mean, I think that\u2019s one of those things, like, so I\u2019ve taught music now for eighteen years, and it\u2019s been an eye opener.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ll teach guitar to the CEO who just sold his huge company, or I remember I taught a captain that had just retired, and he came to me and said, \u2018I just wasted 20 years of my life.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve had people of multiple levels say that they were jealous of me and my meager income because I got to play music. And so that really made me kind of reevaluate what success is.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This is a topic they\u2019ve discussed often. They refer to a favorite quote that rings true for them. Author Natalie O\u2019Rourke said, \u201cIf you don\u2019t define success, then you\u2019ll never have it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jon is on board, \u201cBecause the goal posts always move, right? We watch documentaries about Taylor Swift\u2014you know, she\u2019s arguably one of the biggest songwriters of all time, of our generation right now, at least\u2014and she talks about how miserable she is with deals, or how she always has to be better than her last release, and the pressure of that is just overwhelming.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnd is that success? Being haunted by your success, not appreciating what you\u2019ve done, what you\u2019ve accomplished? That\u2019s not success\u2014at least not to me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cat says, \u201cI\u2019m at risk because of that. What\u2019s next? Like, what\u2019s the next thing we have to achieve? What\u2019s this and this and this? Because I\u2019m very type A. I\u2019m very, like, what\u2019s next on the hit list?<\/p>\n<div class=\"story-images\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-29795 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/IMG_0688.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1429\" height=\"2000\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/IMG_0688.jpg 1429w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/IMG_0688-160x224.jpg 160w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/IMG_0688-240x336.jpg 240w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/IMG_0688-768x1075.jpg 768w, https:\/\/sandiegotroubadour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/IMG_0688-1097x1536.jpg 1097w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1429px) 100vw, 1429px\" \/><\/div>\n<p>\u201cSo, I think, if Jon and I can define what success is before the fact, and I can see, okay, we hit that, that\u2019s awesome. Let\u2019s enjoy this and then move on to the next. So, again, it\u2019s sort of like I\u2019m pushing to be like, we gotta record the next thing. And Jon\u2019s like, we need to enjoy the release that we just did.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>There they are, balancing and supporting each other, and smiling through it with respect.<\/p>\n<p>Support for Jon is what Cat calls \u201cvicious feedback.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cFor me, I\u2019m more looking for critiques from all the people that I look up to,\u201d Jon explains. \u201cThat\u2019s what I run on. It\u2019s like, how can I make things better? And what\u2019s the audience\u2019s perspective?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cat wants none of that. \u201cLie to me. Tell me that I was great. Tell Jon what I did wrong, and he can gently tell me later, you know? Like, censor it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jon shrugs, \u201cOh, I mean, we\u2019re both each other\u2019s biggest fan, so that makes it good. And, you know, we try to be honest, and that part of it makes it difficult\u2014to go back to the original question about being married to your bandmate, right? It\u2019s like if we have to have hard conversations, it doesn\u2019t just apply to the band.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cat shoots back with a smile, \u201cI don\u2019t want feedback right now. I need a husband, not a bandmate.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>When asked what they want people to remember about them, Cat answers first. \u201cI want people to have fun when they\u2019re watching us play. Like, to know that we\u2019re having fun and get people dancing. I guess I just want them to remember that they felt good while they were experiencing it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI want people to be inspired,\u201d Jon offers. \u201cEither inspired to do their own thing, inspired to get up and dance, inspired to pay attention to art more, inspired to support art more, and inspired to think.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou know, I think that\u2019s one of the reasons that I really connected with the first song that we put out called \u201cDust If You Must.\u201d The whole concept is like: go out, dust if you must, but wouldn\u2019t it be better to bake a cake or write a letter?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnd I just love that\u2014like, the call to live your life. Just trying to get people to think, to connect to each other a little bit more. So just inspire in different ways.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The Beard and the Bird are a joy to listen to and to watch. Their energy is infectious, their harmonies silken, and their arrangements light and full of spunk.<\/p>\n<p>I am most definitely inspired.<\/p>\n<p>Everything they have is available on all the usual streaming platforms.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links you\u2019re going to want to visit.<br \/>\n<\/strong>\u2022 The Beard and the Bird, YouTube: https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@thebeardandthebird<br \/>\n\u2022 The Beard and the Bird Spotify: https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/artist\/13INtcQuy7gvOitfpwHlJP?si=mBRM_anVSh6f_zvI4rreTg<br \/>\n\u2022 Traveling Through Live, YouTube: \u00a0https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@travelingthroughlive<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Between Intention and Serendipity: The Art of Following the Catch To say that Jon and Cat Hazs of the Beard and the Bird are two peas in a pod wouldn\u2019t be entirely accurate. They can\u2019t be confined that way. They are more like the multiple and varied notes of a wind chime, bouncing back and forth in a composition that is both intricate and unpredictable. The song would be incomplete without either of them\u2026 and it would be pretty darn boring. Jon is rapid-fire and always on, whitewater rushing forward. Cat is pensive and calm, a gentle creek flowing into shadows and hollows, then back out into the sun. They happily finish and embellish each other\u2019s sentences without batting an eye or taking a breath. It\u2019s symbiotic. 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